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Sub-projects to improve the [[Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)]] Article
Sub-projects as of today.
= ''Rewrite the summary section'' =
:: 1. Clarify who the church is and what it stands for.
:: 2. Take a stab at the Denominations contributions to North American Protestantism.
:: 3. Sumarize its global witness
:: 4. Document all assertions with verifyable references.
:: 5. Move the "least known" out of the Lead sentence.
:: 6. Remove the redundant history paragraph
= ''Locate pictures of the founders for the History section.'' =
:: 1. Identify someone to help with the copyright issues.
:: 2. Search for relevant images.
::* Thomas Campbell
::* Alexander Campbell
::* Walter Scott
::* Racoon John Smith
::* Cane Ridge
::* Cane Ridge Revival
::* Brainstorm Ideas for graphics for Modern Disciples section
:: 3. Edit and resize
:: 4. Upload to Wikipedia
:: 5. Edit location in the article
= ''Re-edit history section and add references.'' =
::* Decide how to approach the Division section
::* Decide how best to approach the CC(DOC)/ Independent Split
::* Where Disciples renewal/ Heritage fellowship??
::* Add a section RE: Jim Jones/Jonestown and its impact on the Denomination
= ''Re-edit Modern Disciples section and add references.'' =
= ''Re edit Universities and Seminaries --'' =
:: 1. Consider whether this section makes sense to take up space
:: 2. Write a talk section about my concerns and see if there is a consensus.
= ''FIND HELP'' =
:: 1. Can I find a couple of editors from the CC(DOC) to assist?
:: 2. Can I find an editor from the Churches of Christ and from the Independent Christian Churches who can help edit the article for balance?
Create Sub-headings
= ''Split the Prominent Members'' section =
Other Articles to Consider
- Ecclesiastical_polity#Congregational_Polity John Park (talk) 16:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- Alexander Campbell
- Restoration Movement
:::# Add a section on the slogans of the movement.
:::# Clean up the POV in the separation of CC(DOC) & non-instrumental Churches of Christ (1906)John Park (talk) 17:13, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
= Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and Category:American Disciples of Christ =
- Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
- Category:American Disciples of Christ
- Disciples of Christ by nationality
These two categories are for the same American denomination. Its official name is The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in the United States and Canada. I would like to rename the CC(DOC) category to cover the full official name and then transfer the "american DOC" links there and the link the references that go there to the renamed page. In addition, there is a category:Disciples of Christ. It is really a disabiguation for American vs British Disciples of Christ. My questions: 1. Do you think this is a reasonable idea? 2. Can you help me do it? 3. Should it just be boldly done or should a notice be posted on the talk pages first? 4. Could the "Category:Disciples of Christ" page be linked to the Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) page and then a disambiguation paragraph be added at the top of that page, linking to the British page. John Park (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not sure I understand the rationale. :Category:American Disciples of Christ is for individuals who are (1) American, and (2) members of the CC(DOC). Similarly, :Category:British Disciples of Christ are for those who are British and members. Both of these categories have a parent category :Category:Disciples of Christ by nationality, which is in use for any religion with members of more than one nationality, so that it can be included in :Category:Protestants by nationality or similar categories. :Category:Disciples of Christ by nationality is in turn a subcategory of :Category:Disciples of Christ, which is a meta-category for members of the church. This category is a subcategory of :Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), the meta-category for the church in general. Everything seems in order here and the categories seem to be named and structured as all Christian religious denomination categories are. To make a change to a category name you need to propose a WP:CFD — the instructions for doing so are laid out fairly clearly on that page. Good Ol’factory (talk) 10:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your insight and perspective. I see that there are a number of issues here that will require some thought. My basic concern is still valid, namely that CC(DOC) and American Disciples of Christ are in reality the same category. With two locations, they are less useful than they might otherwise be. Some editors add to one and other editors add to the other. This is not my top priority, but I will add it to my list of improvements to explore down the road. John Park (talk) 23:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
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[[Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)]]
Hi, I've had a chance to read through the article. Here are some of my initial thoughts, presented in no particular order:
- I think the article is going quite well with history and the modern structure of the church section is coming along, but I would like to see some more on current beliefs (i.e. specific matters of doctrine) and practices. I realise there is a bit in there already in the "Modern Disciples" section, but it definitely could be expanded. Perhaps that might be a challenge since there doesn't seem to be a large amount of doctrine a member has to ascribe to to become a member.
- the first sentence of the article is interesting for me to read, but it's probably not the best thing to place in the very first sentence. I would tend to define what the church is (something like "The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) is a Mainline Protestant denomination in the United States and Canada."), and then maybe the second sentence could say it's not well-known as compared to other mainline Protestant denominations.
- some parts of the "Modern Disciples" sections could be reworded and referenced better. As compared to the history section, it sounds less encyclopedic and more point-of-view-ish — like it was written by someone trying to promote the church or at least present it in as positive a light as possible. Perhaps not coincidentally, this section also is not referenced as well as the historical section. If the statements made in the "Modern Disciples" section were all referenced with third-party sources, the point of view problems would also likely disappear.
- since :Category:Disciples of Christ exists, I'm not sure you ultimately need the section on prominent members. However, I would keep it for now until it's clear that the article is too otherwise too long and then that section could be cut.
For now, obviously my #3 would be the highest priority, followed perhaps by #1, depending on how much more there is out there that could be added. I hope this helps. I would like to contribute myself, but unfortunately I don't know much about this particular denomination or where to find information on it as compared to what I know about most. I guess that does go to show that it's possibly the "least well-known" of the M.P. denominations. :) Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
An Observation
Tb and user:Secisek, you have have made your case. You are, to some degree getting caught in a game of uproar. May I encourage you continue to document the abuse and not respond to comments? I think the uproar itself will make your point, if you just watch. Those who speak (right now), in these cases lose. John Park (talk) 04:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
: I think you may well be right. thanx. Tb (talk) 12:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
::Have a good day!:^) John Park (talk) 13:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
That was my advice to Tb, as well. It would be futile to comment. -- Secisek (talk) 16:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hello John! Thank you!
John/RedRocket: Thank you again for putting the links in your posts. That makes it really easy for me to go to them. Wiki is a little bit disorganized sometimes. I surely understand your concerns regarding citations. I like good citations in articles, too. When it comes to Scripture, we need to allow Scripture to prove itself. Put it up on the witness stand, so to speak. What I mean is this: if I can show you fifteen different passages that say the same exact thing in slightly different wording, that IS our secondary, and tertiary source. I could always site commentaries, and I probably will in some cases. That can get really wordy, though. As long as the citations are simple Scriptural passages, and the context doesn’t get into extremes, then I believe the changes should be left. The sections that I changed hardly had any citations, and needed some “body”. I added a lot of citations and organized the sections a little. We are trying to write an article that shows how MOST churches of Christ worship and how they use Scripture. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and I love encyclopedias just like everyone else here. When it comes to the part of the encyclopedia where religion comes up, we’ll see quite a bit of Bible verses. And that’s ok. It’s when we start adding material from outside the Bible that the discussion will become difficult to understand. Cross referencing will be our best tool. Again, thank you for helping me with the links and the ways of Wiki. Mark0880 (talk) 02:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
The importance of Acapella music to the Churches of Christ.
ThuranX, can you explain to us how mentioning the A Cappella music of a movement that developed around the principle of not using Musical instruments does not belong in the lead section of the article? Do you really believe your note: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Churches_of_Christ&diff=208224132&oldid=208089589 "revert. That's a minor point , as per the talk page, and not the lead?"] To me, it seems central to the identity of the movement, which is NOT a minor point. Did I miss some conversation on the talk page? John Park (talk) 03:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
::Frankly, I'm dropping this article from my watchlist. The POV pushing on here's insanely high ,the entire article reads like crap, and I got tired of fighting it almost immediately after reading the AN/I threads about it. There are too many religious zealots on this page, all insistent that the religion's existed since jesus, and teh catholic church must've hid it in a root cellar for censutires, and so on. Dogma won over fact here long ago, and i'm done. ThuranX (talk) 05:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Seconded, ThuranX. I've lost track the number of times I've reverted POV edits in this article. Many editors have lost sight that we are trying to build an encyclopedic article...that is based on proven fact....and not a pamphlet used for converting readers to the movement. I'm glad someone is/was trying to keep this article in check from POV edits. Sorry to see you go.
:::While A Capella music may be an identifying factor to Churches of Christ, it shouldn't necessarily be the second thing mentioned in the introductory paragraph. The introductory section is already too long. Being A Capella is already mentioned later on in the article, so mentioning it initially is redundant. You don't hear members of Churches of Christ saying to potential members "Come visit us, we're A Capella." While it might have played a role in historic separations in the past, it shouldn't be a central theme in the movement. --Ichabod (talk) 08:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
ThuranX, and --Ichabod, Thanks for your prompt responses here. Both of you are correct, of course, that POV edits abound on the Churches of Christ article. Many are made in good faith. They represent the different perspectives of individuals who are zealots in the sense that they tell the story of their church with passion. I suspect that many may never have written a term paper where they had to cite references and footnotes, so the reference they know are Bible verses. With a radically congregational approach, there are few places that individuals from the Churches of Christ can engage in conversation about their movement. Others do not seem to made in good faith, but doesn't the Wikipedia mantra "assume good faith" require that you and I just fix those, respectfully, and move on? With the article on limited protection as it is my expectation that the anonymous editors will simply reinsert the "lead section" everyone has reverted since January 2008 or before. I expect it within two minutes of the end of the protection. I personally believe in seeking consensus, scholarship, and reason. Consensus is a messy process, isn't it? To those in the Churches of Christ, the edits and comments the three of us make appear that we do not respect their identity. (Yes, MINE, too.) We are all outsiders. I hope both of you will continue to watch Churches of Christ and help referee the game. BTW, My real interest is described in detail on this page and my user page. I find it interesting that some members of the churches of Christ see themselves as a branch of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) after more than a century of separation. Consensus may take a long time. This article will need a few editors who understand what NPOV means and are willing to sympathetically coach and teach. John Park (talk) 13:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:John Park W. I left that page, unwatched it, and removed from my talk page your messagve to me. WHAT, in all of that, led you to think I gave a shit about your excuses for pushing your religious advocacy version of the page? You're one of the 'we're the greatest religion ever' pushers that drove me away from that article. DO NOT BOTHER ME AGAIN. ThuranX (talk) 14:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
JP: I need assistance with citations
Hi John!
Thank you for the updates. - Hey, I actually found and added a citation to the "Other Theological Tendencies" section of churches of Christ. However, I am trying to learn how to follow the already established citation method in the page. I went to Wikipedia:Citing sources and I still really dont see directions on how to make that little number appear with brackets. Can you help, please? Thank you!! Mark0880 (talk) 22:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
: Mark, there are two parts to adding references and citations on a page.
:#First list the source (Book, article, whatever) by editing the section of the article called "References." There are templates at Wikipedia:Citation templates that will format it for you, or you can enter the info as plain text. To do the former, find the appropriate template copy it and paste it where it goes. You can play with this in the Sandbox by cutting and pasting and the clicking preview. If you do the latter, be sure you give all the information. You can see what it will look like by using the Preview feature. This will give the details needed to find the book or source, for those who would like to read more, or to check your work. More details on sources are available at Wikipedia:Reliable sources and its links.
:#Second for each page cited in the article put your cursor in the text where you intend the citation to go and the click on the tool bar (at the top of the edit window) and enter the Author, Year of Publication, and page numbers just as you'd like them to appear in the Notes or footnotes section. The wiki software will do the rest. John Park (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
[[:Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)]]
Hi, I may have mentioned this before.
When an article is found in a subcategory of :Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), it does not need to be added to the main parent category of :Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ); in fact, in almost all cases it should not be.
For instance, Frances McDormand is in :Category:American Disciples of Christ; there is no need to add her to :Category:Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). Similarly, Drury University is in :Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), so it doesn't need to be added to the parent category.
I saw that you added a whole heap of articles back into the parent, but that pretty much defeats the purpose of farming them out to the subcategories and can be more confusing for those who like to find articles by sifting through categories. Thanks! Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for the note. I personally find the Wikipedia subcategories puzzling. My personal preference would be for a few broad categories. You ARE the specialist in categories! And, I yield to your perspective. Would you like me to go back and clean up my mess? John Park (talk) 12:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
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RFA thank-you
Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Brush run Church Possible external links
- [http://ncbible.org/nwh/PLBethany.html Pictures from Bethany]
- [http://www.freedomsring.org/heritage/chap5.html By LeRoy Garrett]
- [http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/texts/wmoore/moorepics/moore.htm Pictures] from William T. Moore's A Comprehensive History of the Disciples of
Christ. New York: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1909.
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[http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/who.html WHO ARE THE CHURCHES OF CHRIST?]
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Using Scriptures in the Churches of Christ Article
Johnparkw,
It has been quite some time since the last time I wrote. I see the churches of Christ page has changed some. Looks a lot more organized now. I have a question at this time. I notice in some other religious pages, such as "Islam", they have many direct references to the Koran. It would be great if we could incorporate more of God's Word in our page as reference. Mark0880 (talk) 00:11, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
:: Mark, You and I both love the Bible. It is a source book for our lives. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, however. Articles are supposed to give a brief general description of their subject. They are intended to give a concise picture of their subject to a general audience that may or may not know about it. Wikipedia suggests a length of 30 kilobytes for a "feature article." The Churches of Christ Article is already more than twice that now. Here is the key question: although Scripture plays an important role in the Churches of Christ, how do the scriptures tell the story to those not part the churches? Much of the change in the article is the scholarship of User:EastTN. He has done some fine work. You might want to raise your question on the talk page of the Churches of Christ Article. John Park (talk) 19:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi John, Hope you had a good weekend. I understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. I will get with East too. I think what Im trying to say is that most other Wiki pages on religious organizations use quotes from their sacred texts to prove what theyre saying. I think it is a bit sad that we have a beautifully written Wiki page for the churches of Christ, but the main spiritual encyclopedia we're trying to explain is hardly mentioned. Does that seem correct to you? Im unsure if I am comfortable with that. The Bible should be allowed to defend itself at least occasionally in the article. I am concerned that we have too many words from men. The Bible speaks better than any of us can. I do see quite a few verse references, so if someone sees that, if theyre interested, they can look it up for themselves, too. At any rate, just a thought. Verse references are probably equally as important as just listing out the verse. Mark0880 (talk) 20:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Oh, also John, A professor at the church I attend just finished a 13-week lesson on church history. I am almost finished with the outline of that class. I was wondering is you'd be interested in seeing the outline? I'd have to email it to you. It is about 50 pages in MS Word. I think you'd really enjoy reading thru it. Mark0880 (talk) 20:16, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Mark, I hope you don't mind my joining this conversation. I think I understand your point of view, and I'm sympathetic. For what it's worth, let me offer my perspective.
:Wikipedia offers a great avenue for people who are not affiliated with the churches of Christ to understand what they are and the basics of what they believe. It has very specific goals and rules, though, so there are some things we simply can't do through Wikipedia. It's not intended to be a forum for persuading people - and it will backfire if we try to use it that way.
:There are also some characteristics of the churches of Christ that make it particularly difficult to write a good article on them - the biggest of which is the deep, deep commitment to congregational autonomy. It's hard to document what the "churches of Christ believe/do," because there's no synod, council, committee or head honcho we can quote to give us an official position - and in many cases, whatever we say, there's almost certain to be some congregations among the churches of Christ that don't believe it or do it. The only effective way I've found to address this is to turn to authors who have studied the churches of Christ and to quote what they say the churches of Christ believe and do - and where there's disagreement within the churches of Christ, to find sources that talk about how common certain beliefs or practices are.
:It would be easier to just write, based on what we know from our own experience, about what the churches of Christ believe and practice, and provide the appropriate scripture references. There are a couple of problems with that approach. First, it's a primary source, and while we can quote it, any conclusions we draw are considered original research. It may be a fine distinction, but what a Wikipedia article on a group like the churches of Christ is intended to explain is what the churches of Christ teach about the Bible - it's not intended to explain the Bible itself.
:Second (and this is what really convinced me), if you look at the history of the article, that approach led into a seemingly endless cycle of disputes. Really good citations from third party sources are the only thing I've seen resolve the kind of arguments that swirled around in the past.
:I would not write a magazine article about the churches of Christ in the same way that I write for the Wikipedia article. I'd write a book differently from a magazine article - and how it would look would depend on the target audience. A FAQ for a congregational website would be still different, and it would be different from a sermon.
:Personally, I think that the basic plea of Restoration Movement churches in general, and the churches of Christ in particular, still has a great deal of appeal. All Wikipedia can do is describe that plea - but if it's described clearly and fairly, I'm convinced that will do nothing but benefit the groups involved.
:I do think the article should make the role that the Bible has in the churches of Christ very clear. I think it does that pretty well now, but there's always room for improvement. What I'm talking about is covering things like (quotes from the article) "Refusal to hold to any formalized creeds or statements of faith, preferring instead a reliance on the Bible alone for doctrine and practice," "Churches of Christ seek to practice the principle of the Bible being the only source to find doctrine," "Their approach to the Bible is driven by the 'assumption that the Bible is sufficiently plain and simple to render its message obvious to any sincere believer'," "They seek to base doctrine and practice on the Bible alone," "generally combine the lack of any historical evidence that first century churches used instruments in worship, and the belief that there is no scriptural support for using instruments in the church's worship service." There's a way to describe (and document) what the churches of Christ believe about the Bible without relying solely or even primarily on scripture references.
:It can be very difficult to work within the bounds of Wikipedia's rules - and some other articles don't always follow those rules. But if we do a good job, and are like Caesar's wife in citing Wikipedia-style "reliable sources" (above reproach), we can produce an article that will withstand challenge from people who are not at all sympathetic to the churches of Christ (there will be those challenges) and that will be generally useful in helping people understand what the churches of Christ are and have to offer. EastTN (talk) 23:19, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Mark, somtimes our best intended actions can have the opposite effect of what we desire to accomplish. For a person who has not come to appreciate the wisdom of the Scriptures, quoting Bible text does not prove the point, at all. It may in fact lead to doubt that the information being shared has any merit. Wikipedia's rules are designed to help tell the story of the subject of the article in such a way that even those who are uninformed will give the subject consideration. EastTN is right that it is important to stay within the guidelines, even though there are other articles that do not.
::I would be interested in seeing the outline you suggested. You may email it to me at ****. (Replace the (AT) with @) I will discard that email address as soon as I have heard from you. John Park (talk) 12:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Johnpark, I notice that the page on Islam uses passages from the Koran right in their paragraphs. This is what I think I'd like to see some of in the churches of Christ page,too. If they can do it, so can we it seems to me.--Mark0880 (talk) 16:31, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - July 2009
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Concern about the word "sacrament" in churches of Christ page
Hi John,
In the churches of Christ page under the Baptism heading, that phrasing regarding "sacraments" is not accurate to the Lord's church teachings. I added some referenced material and it was deleted w/o comment. Any thoughts? Thank you, In Him, Mark0880 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark0880 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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=From the Editor=
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This month marks the observation of Pentecost, one of the most important feast of the Christian liturgical year. It is our hope here that all of you, regardless of your religious affiliation (if any), find that the holiday, and its accompanying activities, an enjoyable and beneficial experience. We also hope that this "Birthday of the Church" is one which gives you the same joy as the birthday of yourself or your loved ones.
Ichthus is the successor to the long running WikiProject Christianity newsletter, run under the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department. As such, you will continue to see information about our latest featured and good articles, DYKs, as well as new members who have joined our project. You might also see links to Christianity related news from the mainstream media!
With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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=Help Bring [[Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan|Wikipe-tan]] "into the fold"=
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As many of you may know, our unofficial mascot, dear Wikipe-tan, hasn't yet indicated any particular beliefs. However, yes, as we all know, ahem, some people might object to our beloved mascot running around in a French maid outfit. People do talk, you know. ;) If anyone might be able to develop an image of the dear lady in a image more, well, "Christian," I would like to see perhaps a vote for next month as to which, if any, image of the dear girl we might make our own unofficial mascot. Please post your images here.
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===Christianity in other wikis===
File:Wikimedia Foundation RGB logo with text.svg As many of you might now, there are a large number of other Wikimedia Foundation projects, including WikiSource, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, WikiQuote, and others. I certainly believe that Wikibooks and Wikiquote might be among the more directly relevant sister projects. If any of you can think of any particular efforts in these other projects which you think would benefit from more input, please let us know here, so we can help spread the word around.
By John Carter
=Spotlight on the Outreach department=
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Ichthus will spotlight a different subproject or workgroup of WikiProject Christianity. This edition will spotlight on our vital Outreach department. This comparatively small, but vital, project unit is dedicated to welcoming new editors to Wikipedia and the Christianity related content, and to providing information to the various project members, in forms like this newsletter.
The scope of articles with which this group deals is truly enormous, and, given the wide variety of material with which we deal, we would very much welcome the input of more individuals, particularly individuals who are particularly knowledgeable of the less well-known and less frequently monitored articles related to Christianity.
Speaking personally, I would be very, very gratified if we were to have this become a very, very large and active unit, with members from the broad spectrum of Christian beliefs, practices, and groups. The broader the spectrum and areas of expertise of members we have, the better we will be able to help manage the content. Please consider whether you believe you might be able to contribute in this vital area.
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=Membership report=
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 331 active members. We would like to welcome User:Sanju87, User:Psalm84, User:Zegron, User:Jargon777, User:Calu2000, User:Gilderien, User:Ronallenus, Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
=From the Editor=
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know what you think of the new departments, and if there are any other suggestions for departments you would like to see. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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=Church of the month=
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By John Carter
=DYK=
- ...that Anna of Kashin, a Russian medieval princess, was twice canonized as a holy protectress of women who suffer the loss of relatives?
=Calendar=
Thie coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.
=Featured content and GA report=
Alec Douglas-Home recently achieved FA status. This picture, in the Church of the Month section, was recently promoted to Featured Picture status.
Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.
===Wikimedia Foundation report===
Wikisource currently has many old texts available, most of them in the public domain. This is a potentially very valuable source for several things, including for instance links to Biblical verses, because we know that it will, basically, be around as long as we are.
with inspiration from History2007
=Christian art=
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This section would include a rather large image of a specific work of art, with a link to the most directly relevant article.
Suggestion: Resurrection of Christ, an English 15th century Nottingham alabaster. Groups of painted relief panels were sold via dealers to churches on a budget , who had wood frameworks made to hold them locally. From a huge new donation of images from the Walters Art Museum to Commons, see {{commonscat|Collections of the Walters Art Museum}}
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=Spotlight=
A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian history. Also, a group specifically devoted to the Mennonites and other Anabaptists is now up and running at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Anabaptist work group. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.
By John Carter
=I believe=
... in the statements contained in the Nicene Creed. I believe that the Bible is one of the two defining bases for belief. The other is the Sacred tradition, which provides us with means of interpreting the Scriptures, as well as some teachings which have been handed on by God outside of the scriptures. I believe that the Magisterium has been empowered to fill this interpretative function. I believe that clerical celibacy is a rule that should generally be followed. I am a member of the Catholic Church.
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Church of the month
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We had last month asked our members to help "bring into the fold" Wikipe-tan as the project's mascot. Voting will take place this month for which image we should adopt at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Wikipe-tan. Please take a moment to review the images and vote for whichever is your favorite, or, if you so prefer, suggest an additional one.
By John Carter
Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-July through mid-September) includes days dedicated to the honor of Mary Magdalene, James, son of Zebedee, Ignatius Loyola, Saint Dominic, Joseph of Arimathea, and the Transfiguration of Jesus.
Featured content and GA report
Grade I listed churches in Cheshire was recently promoted to Featured List status. This picture was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Bartolome de las Casas and Edmund the Martyr were promoted to GA level this past month.
Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.
Wikimedia Foundation report
Wikibooks welcomes the development of textbooks of all kinds, children's books, recipes, and other material. It currently has just under 2500 books, including several Wikijunior books for the 12 and under population. There is, at present, not even a book on Christianity. Anyone interested in helping develop such a textbook is more than welcome to do so.
By John Carter
Christian art
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The portrait of Sir Thomas More by Hans Holbein the Younger.
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Spotlight
A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian history. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.
By John Carter
I believe
... in the tradition of Thomas the Apostle, Mar Addai, and Saint Bartholomew. I believe that Jesus had two essences (or natures), human and divine, unmingled, that are everlastingly united in one personality. I am a member of the Assyrian Church of the East.
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The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 341 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:David_FLXD, User:Alexsbecker, User:Penguin 236, User:Gugi001, User:John D. Rockerduck, and User:Margaret9mary. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
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Church of the month
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Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Books. Right now, :Category:Wikipedia books on Christianity contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Wikipedia books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the main Christianity noticeboard, and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content.
Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. As biographies are often a bit easier, this month we are choosing two biographies: Karl Behm, which has yet to be started, and the currently Stub-class article Nerses IV the Gracious. A barnstar will be awarded to any editor who can get these articles up to DYK quality level and ultimately selected for the DYK section of the main page.
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Thie coming month (mid-August through mid-September) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Bartholomew the Apostle, Nativity of Mary, and the Exaltation of the Cross.
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, William de Chesney (sheriff), Knights of Columbus, and Angelus Silesius were promoted to GA level.
Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.
Wikimedia Foundation report
Wikinews is our sister site for developing news stories. Several events relating to Christianity, like the installation of bishops for instance, do not necessarily merit extensive coverage in wikipedia encyclopedic articles, but can and easily could be covered at greater length in a news article format. Given the number of significant news events that relate to religion, including claims of miracles, assignment of bishops and other religious leaders, church conferences, and other events, this site provides an excellent opportunity to provide in-depth coverage of current events at greater length than wikipedia.
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Spotlight
One of our newer editors, User:David_FLXD, has recently gone through much of our content related to Methodism and assessed it. We are very grateful for his efforts, and that of all the editors who have had a role in developing that content. We have every reason to believe that this will make it significantly easier for the Methodism work group to create and develop content relevant to Methodism. To help that along, we certainly encourage everyone to do what they can to help David and the other Methodism editors to bring the content relevant to their tradition to the highest possible level of quality.
I believe
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 344 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Floating Boat, User:Dewey420, and User:Jpacobb. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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Church of the month
by :User:Diliff
Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Books. Right now, :Category:Wikipedia books on Christianity contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Wikipedia books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the main Christianity noticeboard, and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content.
Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. Last month's challenge articles were Karl Beth and Nerses IV the Gracious. Both articles are currently candidates for the DYK section of the main page. This month's challenge articles are the Stub-class article James Hastings and the not yet started Rudolf Sohm, A barnstar will be awarded to any editor who can get these articles up to DYK quality level and ultimately selected for the DYK section of the main page.
Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-September through mid-October) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of the Martyrs of Korea, Saint Matthew, Vincent de Paul, Michaelmas, Saint Jerome, Theresa of Lisieux, the Feast of the Guardian Angels, Francis of Assisi, Our Lady of the Rosary, and Teresa of Avila.
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Albertus Soegijapranata, and Reginald Heber were promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Greater Manchester was promoted to Featured List, and Jackie Hudson, Joyce Kilmer, Divine command theory, Bosa of York and Argument from morality were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Church of Saint Benoit, Istanbul, All Saints Church, Hollingbourne, Neustädter Kirche, Hannover, St Mary's Church, Kirkby Lonsdale, Albert Ndongmo, If We Are the Body, List of places of worship in Tonbridge and Malling, Kulubnarti church, All Saints Church, Ulcombe, Val-Saint-Lambert Abbey, Igny Abbey, Church of the Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel, Brăila, Places of Worship Registration Act 1855, Collegiate Church of San Gimignano, and St Matthew's Church, Burnley. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Wikimedia Foundation report
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As some of you may have seen, the Simple English Wikipedia has been experiencing some difficulties lately. This particular entity could be of great value to several individuals who are trying to learn English. As some of you who do speak foreign languages know, one of the most easily available, and, in general, useful learning aids for people is a text they know already, which allows them to focus on the specific words of the new language. Various recorded readings and translations of the Bible are among the best examples of this. Any efforts to try to enhance this vital means of informing a large segment of our readership is more than welcome. People interested in helping develop it are encouraged to leave a note regarding their specific articles of interest at the Christianity noticeboard. It would be wonderful if we could report some significant contributions to this sister site next month. And, of course, if we do have something to report, those involved would receive our greatest thanks.
Christian art
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Spotlight
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WikiProject Calvinism is one of our more important subprojects. It is specifically devoted to developing content relating to the Calvinist tradition, and the primary point for development of content relating to the Pilgrims, Presbyterians, Reformed churches, Congregational church, Reformed Baptists, and Low church. We definitely encourage everyone to do what they can to help this project develop the content relating to this extremely important Christian tradition.
I believe
... that human nature is insufficient for salvation, and the grace of God is required to do so. I believe that God has preordained who will and will not achieve salvation. I believe that Jesus's atonement was sufficient for the purposes for which it was done. I believe that God's grace is of such power that it can overcome any person's resistance. I believe that those whom God has chosen for salvation will, by the undeniable power of God, persevere in God's grace. I am a Calvinist.
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 347 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Dplcrnj, User:Danmuz, User:Zigzig20s, and User:Jasonasosa. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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Church of the month
by :User:Taxiarchos228, recently promoted to Featured Image
Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will be to develop content related to the Christmas season, including Advent and other related topics. Please feel free to see and take part in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard#Contest of the month - Advent/Christmas content.
One of last month's challenge articles, Rudolf Sohm, has been substantially developed by User:Jack1956 and User:StAnselm. Our deepest thanks to both of them!!
Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-October through mid-November) includes All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day and major commemorations dedicated to the honor of the Ignatius of Antioch, Luke the Evangelist, Simon the Canaanite, Saint Jude, the dedication of the Lateran Basilica, the beginning of the Nativity Fast, James of Jerusalem, Reformation Day, and others.
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Augustinian theodicy by User:ItsZippy was promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Merseyside by User:Peter I. Vardy was promoted to Featured List. The images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status. John Wheelwright by User:Sarnold17, Christmas Party (The Office) by User:Gen. Quon and If We Are the Body by User:Toa Nidhiki05, were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Cathedral of Saint Demetrius, Craiova, by User:Biruitorul, Nerses IV the Gracious by User:John Carter, Church of St Candida and Holy Cross by User:BarretB, St Laurence's Church, Morland by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Mary's Church, Longfleet by User:Bermicourt, Chor von St. Bonifatius by User:Gerda Arendt, St Andrew's Church, Penrith by User:Peter I. Vardy, Holy Rosary Cathedral (Vancouver) by User:Bloom6132, Sacred Heart Cathedral (Kamloops) by User:Bloom6132, St Columba's Church, Warcop by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Oswald's Church, Ravenstonedale by User:Peter I. Vardy, and W. E. Biederwolf by User:John Foxe. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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Spotlight
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WikiProject Holidays/Christmas task force is the group whose purpose is to help develop the content related to the Christmas season, including Advent, New Year's, and related holidays. As many of us know, in several parts of the world, including the United States, the Christmas season is not only the time of one of the greatest holidays of the Christian liturgical year, but it is also the "make or break" time for many retailers, whose profitability for the year often depends on their success in this time of the giving of sometimes significantly expensive gifts. In other parts of the world, the winter solstice period and sometimes specifically Christmas itself means something that might surprise many Christians, like the Christmas in Japan, where Christmas is one of the times hotels receive the greatest number of, often unmarried, couples staying there for the night. The solstice season is also significant to several other religions. Many of these days are also legal holidays in several places. In Belarus, for instance, both the Western and Eastern Christmas commemorations are legal holidays. We would certainly welcome the members of this project to donate some of their time and talents in the upcoming months to improving this significant content.
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 349 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Hayayika and User:Pikachu Bros.. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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Church of the month
Saint-Augustin, Paris by :User:Saffron Blaze
Recently promoted to Featured Image. Great work!
Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will continue with the Christmas theme, including Advent and other related topics. Please feel free to see and take part in discussion at the Christianity noticeboard.
Calendar
This coming month (mid-November through mid-December) includes the Advent season. Other major feasts are those of Margaret of Scotland, Matthew the Evangelist, Hilda of Whitby, Elizabeth of Hungary, Edmund the Martyr, the Presentation of Mary, Saint Cecilia, Clement of Rome, Catherine of Alexandria, Andrew the Apostle, Francis Xavier, Saint Barbara, John Damascene, Nicholas of Myra, Saint Ambrose of Milan, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, Our Lady of Guadalupe, Lucy of Syracuse, and others.
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Crucifixion and Last Judgement diptych by, among others, User:Truthkeeper88, User:Ceoil, and User:Kafka Liz and Mitt Romney by User:Wasted Time R were promoted to FA. List of 2000s Christian Songs number ones by User:Toa Nidhiki05 was promoted to Featured List. The two images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status, as were these two images of Michelangelo's Pieta 50px and of Giovanni Bellini's Saint Francis in the Desert 50px. Derek Webb by User: Pepsi2786 and others, and Scipione Piattoli by User:Piotrus were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Archdiocese of Râmnic, by User:Biruitorul, Diocese of Caransebeş by User:Biruitorul, Wythburn Church by User:Peter I. Vardy, St. Gumbertus, Ansbach by User:Gerda Arendt, User:Dr. Blofeld, and User:Nvvchar collectively, St. Johannis, Ansbach by User:Gerda Arendt, User:Dr. Blofeld, and User:Nvvchar collectively, Nikollë Bojaxhiu by User:ZjarriRrethues, All Saints Church, Lydd by User:Dr. Blofeld, User:Rosiestep, User:Gilderien, and User:Ipigott collectively, St Mary's Church, Acton Burnell by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Eata's Church, Atcham by User:Peter I. Vardy, Nativity of St. John the Baptist Church, Piatra Neamț by User:Biruitorul, Anna Schäffer by User:Shii, List of Archbishops of Vancouver by User: Bloom6132, James Francis Carney by User:Bloom6132, St Luke's Church, Chelsea by User:PKM and User:Johnbod, Gregory Orologas by User:Alexikoua, Ambrosios Pleianthidis by User:Alexikoua, and St Giles' Church, Barrow, by User:Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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Spotlight
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The core topics work group is the group whose specific purpose is to help identify and develop those articles which are of greatest importance to an overall understanding of the broad subject of Christianity, based on what is included in the core topics list. These articles include some of specific churches and individuals, history, philosophical and theological matters, and more. We have had some recent discussion regarding which articles should be included in this list, and it probably makes sense to revisit the selections, and try to figure out how best to work to make them high quality articles. Discussion is beginning at WT:X regarding these matters, and all input is welcome.
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 350 active members. We would like to welcome our newest member, User:Harishrawat11. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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By John Carter
Church of the month
This image of The Baptistry of Saint John in Pisa by :User:NotFromUtrecht
was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!
Contest of the month
As I imagine many of our editors will be editing at a greatly reduced level for the next few weeks, what with the Christmas and New Year's holidays coming, there is no specific content-related contest this month. The contest, if anything, is to make the most of the season, in whatever way, if any, you deem appropriate.
Calendar
This coming month (mid-December through mid-January) includes the Advent season, and one of the two greatest holidays of the Christian year, Christmas. Other major feasts in the next month include those of the Feast of the Epiphany, Baptism of the Lord, Saint Stephen, Thomas the Apostle, Holy Innocents, John the Evangelist, Gregory of Nazianzus, Basil the Great, Saint Genevieve, Elizabeth Ann Seton, and Saint Sava.
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Anne Hutchinson nominated by User:Sarnold17 was promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Lancashire by User:Peter I. Vardy was promoted to Featured List. The image in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status. Come to the Well by User:Toa Nidhiki05 and others, and Dwight Christmas by User:Gen. Quon and others were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include King's Chapel, Gibraltar, by User:Prioryman, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Albany, New York) by User:Daniel Case, Tingsted Church by User:Ipigott and User:Rosiestep, St. Mary's Church (Albany, New York) by User:Daniel Case, Stubbekøbing Church by User:Ipigott and User:Rosiestep, Notre Dame Cathedral (Phnom Penh) by User:Bloom6132, and St. James' Church, Cardington by User:Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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Spotlight
In the spirit of Christmas, the spotlight for the coming month might actually best be on those people closest to you. We know that a lot of our editors here are associated in some way or another with schools, and many if not most of them are going on rather extended breaks for the holidays. This can give some of us a chance to meet up with old friends, spend time with our families and those close to us, and, in a sense, "recharge" for the new year. So, for all of you who are in some way part of that group, we wish you the very best of holidays. We hope you all return to editing after the holidays with your spirits lifted and with your energies at peak level. There are some small matters in development here as well, and it is our hope that some of them will be ready come the next newsletter. But, until then, we wish you all the happiest and holiest (if appropriate) holidays.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - January 2013
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 354 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Alliereborn, Iselilja, Peterkp, and Sosthenes12. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By John Carter
Church of the month
This image of Alexander Nevsky Cathedral in Tallinn, Estonia by :User:Poco a poco
was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard#Future contests, and would very much welcome any input from interested parties in how to set it up, determine winners including how many winners, etc.
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, the image in the "Church of the Month" section of this newsletter was promoted to Featured Image status.
Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes, BWV 40 by Gerda Arendt and others, Teuruarii IV by Lemurbaby, KAVEBEAR and others, and Peace on Earth (Casting Crowns album) by Toa Nidhiki05 and others, were all promoted to GA status.
Also this past month, the DYKs on the main page included St James' Church, Cardington by Peter I. Vardy, Bishop's Palace, Kraków by Poeticbent, Kippinge Church by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Trinitatis Church, also by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Steindamm Church by Olessi, St Laurence's Church, Church Stretton by Peter I. Vardy, Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Meteora, by Peter I. Vardy, Sonrise Church, by Aboutmovies, St. Peter's Episcopal Church (Albany, New York), by Daniel Case, All Saints Church, Claverley, by Peter I. Vardy, and Church of the Holy Virgin Mary of Lourdes, by Poeticbent. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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This image was created by User:Dcoetzee. Thank you, Dcoetzee!
Spotlight
The Spotlight this month turns to the the Syriac Christianity work group. The scope of this project includes the various traditions of Syriac Christianity, including the Assyrian Church of the East, Ancient Church of the East, Church of the East, Syriac Orthodox Church, Chaldean Catholic Church, Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, Melkite Greek Catholic Church, Syriac Catholic Church, Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, and Saint Thomas Christians. One of these groups, the Assyrian Church of the East, is considered by scholars to have probably been, for several hundred years, the largest Christian grouping in the planet, with its numerous members in Central Asia and Eastern Asia. Numerous texts, traditions, and practices unique to these groups exist, including the Jesus Sutras and the belief of the Assyrian Church of the East that the bread they use in the preparation of their Eucharist uses the same basic yeast as that used in the bread of the Last Supper itself. Sadly, given the linguistic barriers to much of the content relative to these groups, and the comparative lack of notoriety they have in the Western world, much of this content does receive less attenion, and thus less development, than much other content. There is a large amount of extremely valuable historical material here still waiting to be adequately developed by editors with an interest in the topic, and I personally very much hope that we can draw more attention to these topics, and the content related to them.
By John Carter
Calendar
This coming month (mid-January through mid-February) includes The Presentation of Christ in the Temple or Candlemas and the Conversion of Paul. Other major feasts in the next month include those of Saint Agnes, Saint Francis de Sales, Saints Timothy and Titus, Thomas Aquinas, John Bosco, Saint Agatha, Paul Miki, [{Saint Scholastica]], and Saint Anskar.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter April 2013
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 357 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Thomas Cranmer, Mr.Oglesby, and Sneha Priscilla. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
From the Editor
We apologise for the hiatus in the publication of this newsletter due to unforseen circumstances leading to the wikibreak of John Carter, and so I have taken over as acting editor, and have taken this opportunity to move the publication date to the start of each month as planned, to better reflect on the previous month and look ahead to the next. This issue covers the period of time from mid-January to the end of March.
Since the last issue we have seen the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of Pope Francis. This has received much coverage both in the world media and on Wikipedia. While there is still much work to do, several quality articles have been written and the editors involved are thanked for their efforts.
This month we look ahead to Easter and the celebration of God's love for mankind through the crucifixion and resurrection of his Son Jesus Christ. With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By Gilderien
Church of the month
File:Iglesia de San Ildefonso, Oporto, Portugal, 2012-05-09, DD 01.JPG
This image of the Church of Saint Ildefonso, Portugal by Poco a poco was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard#Future contests, and would very much welcome any input from interested parties in how to set it up, determine winners including how many winners, etc.
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;
Grade I listed churches in Cumbria was promoted to Featured List status, thanks to Peter I. Vardy, and the image above of the Church of Saint Ildefonso was promoted to featured picture status.
Martin Luther King, Jr., by Khazar2, was promoted to GA status, as well Third Epistle of John by Cerebellum.
Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included St Mary's Church, Cleobury Mortimer by Peter I. Vardy; Marion Irvine by Giants2008; Margaret McKenna by Guerillero; Archdiocesan Cathedral of the Holy Trinity by Epeefleche; St Edith's Church, Eaton-under-Heywood by Peter I. Vardy; Vester Egesborg Church by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, and Dr. Blofeld; Undløse Church by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, and Dr. Blofeld; St Martin's Church, Næstved by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, and Dr. Blofeld; St. Peter, Syburg by Gerda Arendt and Dr. Blofeld; Østre Porsgrunn Church by Strachkvas; Church of Our Saviour (Mechanicsburg, Ohio) by Nyttend; Dami Mission by Freikorp; Mechanicsburg Baptist Church by Nyttend; Acheiropoietos Monastery, by Proudbolsahye; T. Lawrason Riggs, by Gareth E Kegg; McColley's Chapel, by Mangoe; Oświęcim Chapel, by BurgererSF; Second Baptist Church (Mechanicsburg, Ohio), by Nyttend; Church of the Holy Ghost, Tallinn, by Yakikaki; Old Stone Congregational Church, by Orladyl Heath Chapel, by Peter I. Vardy; St. Joseph's Church, Beijing, by Bloom6132; Church of St Bartholomew, Yeovilton, by Rodw; and St. Michael's Catholic Church (Mechanicsburg, Ohio) also by Nyttend. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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Spotlight
The Spotlight this month turns to the the Jesus work group. The scope of this project includes the life and teachings of the central figure of Christianity, Jesus Christ and aims to write about them in a non-denominational encylopædic style. Top-priority articles include Jesus, Christ, Resurrection of Jesus, and Holy Grail, whereas High-priority articles include Aramaic Language, a former FA, as well as Sermon on the Mount, Lamb of God, and Passion (Christianity). The workgroup has also published two books, covering Christ's final days and the Parables of Jesus. The workgroup has two GAs, Nativity scene, and Jesus in Islam, but unfortunately the flagship article, Jesus was delisted in 2009. It is also responsible for three WP:1.0 articles, and the WikiWork of the project is 4.56, which indicates the "average" article is between Start and C class.
By Gilderien
Calendar
This coming month (end-March through end-April) includes Easter Sunday in Western Christianity and both Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Other major feasts in the next month include those of Saint George, Saint Mark the Evangelist, Saint Stanislaus, James, son of Zebedee, and Benedict the Moor.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (May 2013)
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 363 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Pleonic, MJWilliams1998, Iloilo Wanderer, Jkadavoor, Sir Ian and McBenjamin. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
From the Editor
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This month we hear the news that the Bible is to be made into a film after outstanding success of a biblical miniseries on the History Channel, and we have seen the release of Iraqi Pastor Ali Hamzah from his confinement in Iraq.
After last month's spotlight on the Jesus work group, the flagship article, Jesus, was nominated for Good Article status after much work from FutureTrillionaire and History2007, and provisionally passed by the reviewer, although they have requested a second opinion. Our many thanks for the hard work that has gone into restoring this article to a quality piece of work.
This month the second largest denomination of Christianity, the Eastern Orthodox Church, celebrates Easter and the death and resurrection of the Son of God Jesus Christ.
P.S. Please [{{fullurl:Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard|action=watch}} click here] to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.
By Gilderien
Church of the month
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Wells Cathedral was this month promoted to GA status. Rodw has appealed for any help project members can give to improve this article for a FA nomination.
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content.
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;
Featured report;
Madonna in the Church, by Ceoil, Truthkeeper88, and Johnbod was promoted to Featured Article status.
Crucifixion and Last Judgement was promoted to featured picture status, after nomination by Crisco 1492.
Wells Cathedral, by Rodw, Robert of Ghent, by User:Ealdgyth, Christianity in Medieval Scotland, by Sabrebd, and Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, also by Sabrebd were promoted to GA status.
Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included Lectionary 311, by Leszek Jańczuk; Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn, by Gerda Arendt; Whalsay Parish Church, by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, Dr. Blofeld; Interpretatio Christiana, by Altenmann; First Congregational Church, Salt Lake City, by Orlady; Church of King Charles the Martyr, Royal Tunbridge Wells, by The C of E; First Church in Albany (Reformed), by Daniel Case; Pope Anastasius II, by AbstractIllusions; Iglesia de Nuestra Señora de la Palma, by Dr. Blofeld, Ipigott, Rosiestep; Colan Church, by Rosiestep, Nvvchar, Ipigott; Notre Dame Cathedral, Papeete, Bloom6132, Church of St. Wenceslaus (New Prague, Minnesota), by Elkman; St. Joseph Catholic Church (San Antonio, Texas), by Gilliam; Doubting Thomas, by Johnbod; Robert of Ghent, by Ealdgyth; and Holy Trinity Church, Holdgate, by Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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Spotlight
SPOTLIGHT
This month, we turn our attention to the Encyclopedic articles sub-group, which aims to provide "a collection point for lists of articles contained in other reference sources relating to Christianity, which could serve as a basis for developing our own content". Created by John Carter, it is primarily a list of links, red or otherwise, for subjects which have an article in the reference works listed therein. This serves as a very useful list if any project members are "stuck for what to do" and there remains lots of potential for articles developed from this list.
By Gilderien
Calendar
This coming month (end-April through end-May) includes Easter Sunday for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Other major feasts in the next month include those of Matthias the Apostle, The Venerable Bede, and Empress Helena.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)
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From the Editor
File:ბუმბული.pngSince its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.
Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.
From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.
We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.
Church of the month
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The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.
Good articles and DYKs
The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.
Focus on...
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Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.
In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,[http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2012/12/24/3660194.htm he would eat a page] of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.
The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.
From the bookshelf
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Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.
Did you know...
- ... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?
Calendar
The coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (July 2013)
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File:ბუმბული.png Welcome to the July 2013 issue of Ichthus. We focus on the chronology of Jesus, as well as looking back at the project content improved over the last month.
WP:X has gained another Featured Article, Gospel of the Ebionites, by Ignocrates. The Gospel of the Ebionites is the name scholars give to an apocryphal gospel that supposedly belonged to a sect known as the Ebionites. It consists of seven short quotations discovered in a heresiology known as the Panarion, written by Epiphanius of Salamis, and its original title remains unknown. The text is a gospel harmony composed in Greek, and is believed to have been written during the middle of the 2nd century.
St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn was promoted to Good Article status, as was two other welsh churches, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, and St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch.
The main page also featured several DYK hooks for articles in our project, namely Bob Fu, List of places of worship in Tandridge (district), Catholic Press, Garendon Abbey, St. John's Episcopal Church (Jersey City, New Jersey), Pargev Martirosyan, Praskvica Monastery, Heather Preceptory, St. Augustin, Coburg, Longleat Priory, St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, Christianization of Moravia, Christianization of Bohemia, Repton Abbey, St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch, Medingen Abbey, Elmhurst Christian Reformed Church, St. James on-the-Lines, and Leopold Karl von Kollonitsch.
Church of the month
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St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery is part of Saint Sophia's Cathedral, Kiev in Ukraine. It is a functioning monastery that dates back to the Middle Ages.
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 367 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Newchildrenofthealmighty, Evenssteven, Kerna96, and FutureTrillionaire. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
Focus on...
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When did Jesus live? When did he die? How do we know? We do, in fact, have excellent information about the time intervals for the life and death of Jesus. As in other people who lived and died in the first century, this gives an approximate date range, but still, give or take 3-4 years and we have pretty good estimates confirmed by a number of really diverse sources, ranging from inscriptions in Delphi to Roman and Jewish sources. The Chronology of Jesus article discusses how a wide variety of Christian, Jewish and Roman sources are used to establish the time-frame for the life and death of Jesus.
And all of his data fits together. For instance, the chronology of Paul had been discussed based on the Book of Acts long ago, then the Delphi Inscription is found in the 20th century in the Temple of Apollo. And guess what.. it confirms it and totally dates his trial in Corinth, which helps reaffirm the date of the crucifixion of Jesus. The same date range is independently estimated from the writings of Josephus on the Baptist's death. And it fits Isaac Newton's astronomical models for the crucifixion date as well as the independent lunar calculations of Humphreys. As that article shows, all these dates just fit together.
From the bookshelf
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This two volume book (with a very apt title) is gem-filled with scholarly research. Paul Maier's article in the first volume is a classic study on the chronology of Jesus and provides a useful summary of a number of issues.
Did you know...
- ... that the Russian journalist Nicolas Notovitch who in 1894 originated the story that there was evidence at the Hemis monastery that an adult Jesus had traveled to India, later confessed to fabricating his evidence?
Calendar
This month (July) contains the feast days of Mary Magdalene, and James, son of Zebedee.
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August 2013 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter
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From the Editor
Welcome to the August 2013 issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. We focus on the historical Jesus and reflect on the last month.
The project has another featured picture, The ruins of Holyrood Chapel, a digitisation of an oil-on-canvas painting. Our top-importance article, Jesus, has been nominated for Featured Article status, the discussion can be seen here; Knights of Colombus has also been nominated as a FAC.
Ecgbert (bishop) and Church architecture in Scotland have both this month achieved Good Article status.
Our project had several of its articles featured in the main page DYK section, including Hinckley Priory, Little Chapel, St Peter's Church, Ropsley, Chip Ingram, St John the Evangelist's Church, Corby Glen, Great George Street Congregational Church, St Mary's Church, Walton-on-the-Hill and Bunge church.
Our thanks go to all of those who have worked to achieve these article milestones.
Church of the month
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This image, of Maillezais Cathedral and created by Selbymay was this month promoted to featured picture status.
Membership report
We would like to welcome our newest members, Thechristophermorris, Psmidi and Jchthys. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
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What was Jesus like? What did he preach? Did he claim to be the Messiah? Did he predict an apocalypse? What can we know about him outside a religious context? The Historical Jesus article discusses what can be known about Jesus with various degrees of probability. While scholars agree on the over all flow and outline of Jesus' life (his baptism by John, debated Jewish authorities, healings, and his crucifixion by Pilate) they have built various and diverging portraits of the rest of his life. These range from minimalist portraits that accept very little of the gospel accounts to maximalists who accept most of the accounts as historical.
The portraits of Jesus have at times been unwitting reflections of the researchers themselves, and Crossan once quipped that some authors "do autobiography and call it biography". However, the study of historical Jesus has made one thing clear: there is so much to learn about Jesus that the more one looks, the more there is to discover.
From the bookshelf
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In this book Maurice Casey not only draws on his special expertise in the Aramaic traditions and the Q source, but provides a comprehensive review of the various approaches to the historical Jesus.
Did you know...
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- ... that in 1951 Christianity was the second largest religion in the world with 500 million followers, compared to 520 million Buddhists, but by 2013 it had gained the top spot with about 2.2 billion Christians?
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Ichthus April 2018
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By Lionelt
Belated Happy Easter and Kalo Pascha! We're excited to announce the return of our newsletter Ichthus! Getting this issue out was touch-and-go for a while. Check out what's happening at the Project:
- There was a lively discussion about the Easter Did You Know nomination Christ the Lord is Risen Today
- RFC at Knights of Columbus regarding a question about having Prop 8 in the lead
- In anticipation of being nominated for Featured article, Presbyterian Church in the United States of America was put up for Peer Review by Ltwin
- The death of Billy Graham on February 21 was a profound loss for many. For the Wikipedia reaction see this discussion. Graham received a blurb.
- And... Order of Friars Minor--nominated by Chicbyaccident--is still [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Order_of_Friars_Minor/GA1&action=edit&preload=Template:GAN/preload&editintro=Template:GAN/editintro waiting for a GA reviewer]. Please help out if you can.
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In March the Project saw four articles promoted to GA-Class. They were the oh-so-irresistible Delilah (nom. MagicatthemovieS) (pictured), Edict of Torda (nom. Borsoka), David Meade (author) (nom. LovelyGirl7) and last but not least Black Christmas (2006 film) (nom. Drown_Soda). Black Christmas? How did that get in there lol? Congratulations to all of the nominators for a job well done!
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Nominated by The C of E
... that some people know Christ the Lord is risen today from Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?"
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Jesus (7–2 BC to 30–33 AD) is the central figure of Christianity, whom the teachings of most Christian denominations hold to be the Son of God and the awaited Messiah of the Old Testament. Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that a historical Jesus existed, although there is little agreement on the reliability of the gospel narratives and how closely the biblical Jesus reflects the historical Jesus. Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Jewish preacher from Galilee, was baptized by John the Baptist, and was crucified in Jerusalem on the orders of the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate. Christians generally believe that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin, performed miracles, founded the Church, died by crucifixion as a sacrifice to achieve atonement, rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven, from which he will return. The great majority of Christians worship Jesus as the incarnation of God the Son, the second of three Persons of a Divine Trinity. A few Christian groups reject Trinitarianism, wholly or partly, as non-scriptural. In Islam, Jesus is considered one of God's important prophets and the Messiah. {{TFAFULL|Jesus}}
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