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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Créu

:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Funk carioca. \ Backslash Forwardslash / (talk) 06:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

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Non-notable meme. A Twitter "Trending-topic" doesn't turn a meme into an encyclopedic subject. Damiens.rf 15:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment There is another article which was included just because it was a trending topic on twitter. This one:Death of Neda Agha-Soltan. I believe this article should be deleted before Créu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.46.101 (talk) 09:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete Memes are not subjects to be wikied about, I'd give it a month to see if its another gimick or if it has staying power.--Cleave and Smite, Delete and Tear! (talk) 16:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Neutral I just want to say this is not simply a Twitter meme, but a sucessful "song" and slang. I don't know if notability still holds, but... Osias (talk) 17:47, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Not serious I'm Brazilian and I'm ashamed with this article. It looks like an uncyclopedia article. Sorry, but I'm completely favor on article deletion. --Rcsilva83 (talk) 18:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Given its foreign origin and subject matter it'll probably be difficult find an editor to get the article to a proper standard but still, I do think it's notable enough. The term is not simply a Twitter 'trending topic', the "Dança do Créu" was a big phenomenon in Brazil; I've heard of it and I'm not from the country. We have plenty of articles on much less famous memes; I think it would show a Western bias on Wikipedia if things like Hott4Hill can get an article whilst Créu gets deleted. MaesterTonberry (talk) 18:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Not a meme This is definitely not a meme, it's a very common slang in Brazil. It may not have encyclopedic relevance, so its definition could be placed in Wiktionary. --Danielzinho 18:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielzinho (talk • contribs)
  • Strong Keep What do you mean foreign? Wikipedia has no national basis, so nothing is "foreign" in any way. We did not include Créu because it was a meme (and it was indeed), but because it is culturally significant, as many other slangs. It was mainly restricted to one single nation, until last week. Network communication, not only twitter, helps to integrate cultures and subcultures – not to widen the gap – in the fields where the mainstream neglects. We have articles for Caralho, Banjee, Cunt, Rusty trombone and a number of other profanities. Why not keeping info on something which has made way into music, art, humour, media and popular speech? One more note: most votes here so fare were cast by Brazilian users. Shouldn't en.Wiki avoid being affected by the reductionist vices of the pt.Wiki? --Pedro Aguiar (talk) 19:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • By 'foreign' I of course meant from a non-English speaking country and how that may unfairly prejudice the decision on its notability. MaesterTonberry (talk) 20:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep "Fuck" is not on AfD, why would "Créu" be? They mean the same thing when talking about sexual intercourse. Also, both articles begin with the same words. Stop this my-slang-is-better-than-yours thing and don't be stupid. The "ashamed" brazilians here are just pseudomoralists trying to look mature. (K8, Anonymous)
  • Keep I agree with MaesterTonberry, but I see no use in foreign (non-portuguese) languages. --FelipeVargasRigo (talk) 19:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm Brazilian, I'm not ashamed with this article, I don't think it looks like an uncyclopedia article. When I read it I found the text well written and clarifying, but let's be serious, this is not an encyclopedic article. Créu is a momentum slang, Dança do Créu is just a small sample of a much broader musical culture of funk music with sexual conotation. Comparisons with caralho, a centennial slang for penis, or other slangs, are ridiculous. --hdante (talk) 21:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete Not relevant. And I'm also another ashamed brazilian... Fsolda (talk) 22:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Merge with Funk carioca. The slang is undoubtly relevant, and I believe it can be very useful to have an enclyclopedic explanation for it. However, although being this article well written, a complete article seems to be excessive. (I am not sure I have voting rights here; if not, my opinion can be seen as a suggestion) --Brandizzi (talk) 22:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Delete In agreement with Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information I recommend the deletion. --189.93.31.74 (talk) 16:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I second merging with Funk Carioca. Censorship is not acceptable in any culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acvb (talk • contribs) 17:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I'd just like to emphasize once more that Créu is a slang, precedent and independent from any song or media product (and it does exist and is widely used, in spite of what was said below). The article centers on the word, not the meme nor the funk hit. It is clearly defined as an "onomatopoeic vulgar slang", not as a song lyrics or pun, and categorized accordingly. Please have that in mind. --83.61.14.34 (talk) 14:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
  • The above was me, using a different browser which had no login cookie yet.--Pedro Aguiar (talk) 14:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
  • No to delete, see portuguese profanity (this is term Créu don't exist), english profanity, etc, etc. Bruno Leonard (talk) 02:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment: Related AFD: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yes, we créu. This fact belongs somewhere, so I added this to 2016_Summer_Olympics#Bidding: "Rejoicing Brazillians coined the phrase "Yes, we créu" (a play on U.S. President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign slogan) to celebrate the win."{{cite news|url=http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/esportes,yes-we-creu-o-hit-olimpico-brasileiro-no-twitter,445002,0.htm|title='Yes We Créu': o hit olímpico brasileiro no Twitter|date=October 2, 2009|work=O Estado de S. Paulo|accessdate=2009-10-08}} {{reflist}}
  • --Milowent (talk) 17:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Strong delete. As a Brazilian I beg this article to be deleted for I. not being encyclopedic at all and II. bringing shame on my country (carioca funk is a sub-sub-culture, the worst thing this country has ever produced in terms of "music"). Capmo (talk) 02:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.