. -- Tavix (talk) 18:21, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
There is no information at the target about listicles, which is what I was looking for when trying out this as a possible source of information for advice about listicles, whether that be for notability, reliability, usefuless, whatever. I don't know if there was at the time of redirect creation, but as things stand now, this is just unhelpful at best, and misleading at worst, so I simply suggest deletion. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:47, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. I'm really confused as to what the issue is here. Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists is {{em|the}} page for information on list articles — the nomination rationale makes no sense to me. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:15, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- :See the article on listicles: {{tq2|In journalism and blogging, a listicle is an article that is structured as a list, which is often fleshed out with additional text relating to each item.[1][2] A typical listicle will prominently feature a cardinal number in its title, with subsequent subheadings within the text itself reflecting this schema. The word is a portmanteau derived from list and article.}} I.e., generally Buzzfeed-style "10 Times Squirrels Got Inside Celebrity Homes. Number 6 Will Shock You". The target guideline page on lists doesn't say anything about these, which is what I and most others would be looking for. WP lists aren't (or at least shouldn't be) listicles. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 19:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- ::I highly doubt that "{{tq|most others would be looking for}}" information of the BuzzFeed variety; no Wikipedia article is structured this way, and I can think of no reason to expect information about this kind of content in the project namespace. It's also worth noting that article means very different things in the contexts of journalism and encyclopediography — and so listicle will inherit that difference in meaning. In talk page discussions, I've seen the terms list, list article, and listicle used interchangeably, so these redirects are undoubtedly useful to the community. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:55, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
- :::I really don't understand your keep rationale here. I've never seen anyone use "listicle" to refer to a WP list, whereas I've seen it used extensively to see it refer to the clickbait-style example I described above, often somewhat pejoratively. I'd expect a redirect like this to point to information or guidance or opinion about their use as sources, not the overall page about WP lists generally (unless that page actually had information about listicles, but it doesn't, hence the nomination in the first place). 35.139.154.158 (talk) 20:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
:Unless it's been used significantly I would also lean delete /disambuate - I would have thought it was about listicles as sources. (t · c) buidhe 15:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. I've had a mostly-written essay on the specific topic of Listicles & Wikipedia lying around in a Google Doc for ages. I'd be happy to clobber the redirect and replace it with my essay if there's a desire for Listicle-specific content in the Wikipedia space, which would render the RFD moot (there'd just be a hatnote to the stand-alone lists target). SnowFire (talk) 04:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow • talk 20:09, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - listicles do not conform to Wikipedia's style guide for lists (the current target). Sending an editor looking for this shortcut to the guideline page on how to make Wikipedia lists properly doesn't seem like a bad thing. If SnowFire's essay proves to be a better target then we can retarget there, but as of now that page does not exist on Wikipedia. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:18, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. Wikipedia:Proseline might also be a potential target, depending on what is meant by "listicle". — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 15:26, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: For consideration of the retarget suggestion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:41, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
:The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
