Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 17#PlayStation(R)4

• {{no redirect|1 = Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) - }} → :Five stages of grief  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) -|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) - closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) -|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) - closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) -|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) - closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not sure if Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) needs to exist, but the nominated redirect is unlikely/WP:COSTLY due to the hyphen at the end. Steel1943 (talk) 19:40, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete unlikely search, plenty other ways to get there via Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Five stages of grief, On Death and Dying, etc. Tule-hog (talk) 21:21, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Note this redirect has been around since 2005. Rusalkii (talk) 22:50, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• :...Actually, 2004, but yeah. And surprisingly, this title has always been a redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:54, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:Delete - this current redirect as the hyphen at the end makes it implausible. I would probably still object to Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (five stages of grief) being made though, as a potential WP:XY between the article on the psychiatrist herself or the model named after her User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 08:34, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

• Keep - Implausible as it may seem, this is an OLD redirect, and should be kept for that reason alone, purely to prevent link rot if nothing else. For its stupid implausible formatting, hyphen included, it gets a surprising number of yearly hits... 33 this year alone! That hints to me that external incoming links are a thing somewhere, and we should continue to catch those. To the contrary of nom's opinion, I believe WP:CHEAP applies here. Fieari (talk) 00:07, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete Irrelevant ancient cruft. I'm not convinced by "this is old". * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:10, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. As Tule-hog says, there are plenty of other good alternatives. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:18, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Tempura shrimp }} → :Tempura#Serving and presentation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Tempura shrimp|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Tempura shrimp closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tempura shrimp|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Tempura shrimp closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tempura shrimp|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Tempura shrimp closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

I think this would be a commonly searched term. Justjourney (talk) 18:22, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{re|Justjourney}} You've just created it. Why would you like it discussed at RfD? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:52, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

::I would like to see if others agree with it being created? Justjourney (talk) 19:27, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:Comment: Probably best to "delete per WP:REDLINK and WP:XY" due to possible confusion with Fried shrimp. Steel1943 (talk) 19:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:*Weak retarget to Fried shrimp#Ebi tempura per Hyphenation Expert's comment. It's not enough for me to fully support their targeting option since all Shrimp are Prawn but not all prawn are shrimp, meaning the proposed target may not necessarily be about the subject of the redirect, but it's better than the current target which only has a vague mention of "shrimp" at Tempura#Seafood; having the redirect target there would seem to be a WP:RETURNTORED situation due to the lack of content specifically about the subject of this redirect. Either way, the current target is not specifically about shrimp but rather "presentation" about tempura in general, and there's more content about a shrimp topics at Fried shrimp regarding tempura, so at the very least do not keep. Steel1943 (talk) 23:59, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

• Retarget Fried shrimp#Ebi tempura. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 20:31, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Fried shrimp#Ebi tempura, as being more directly about tempura shrimp. Fieari (talk) 00:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Дракуля }} → :Dracula (disambiguation)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Дракуля|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Дракуля closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Дракуля|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Дракуля closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Дракуля|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Дракуля closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Seemingly unhelpful to redirect the cyrillic to the Dracula disambiguation page. To my understanding none of the entries have the cyrillic anywhere. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

• Comment Romanian Cyrillic alphabet, and the historical Dracula was from Wallachia, part of historical greater Romania, which also used Cyrillic. Wallachia is now part of Moldova, which also uses Moldovan Cyrillic alphabet -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 23:38, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

• Contingently, Retarget to Vlad the Impaler - According to Romanian Cyrillic alphabet, Romania used a cyrillic alphabet until 1830, Vlad the Impaler was in the 15th century. That would make this WP:RFOR compliant... assuming that this cyrillic is correct to the historical Romanian alphabet, and that this term was used for Vlad in Romanian at some point before 1830. I would guess that this is the case, but I don't know for certain, so my !vote is contingent on these being true. Fieari (talk) 23:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

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• Retarget per Fieari. There's plenty of links to other pages if that's not what the reader wanted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:02, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Vlad the Impaler per Fieari. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 11:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Cephalobaenida }} → :Cephalobaena  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Cephalobaenida|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Cephalobaenida closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Cephalobaenida|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Cephalobaenida closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Cephalobaenida|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Cephalobaenida closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not monotypic, contains other genera such as Raillietiella and Yelirella. IC1101-Capinatator (talk) 09:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

:Keep{{snd}}according to WoRMS, [https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=730117 Railletiella] and [https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=730052 Yelirella] comprise the family [https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=730052 Raillietiellidae] in the monotypic order [https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=730050 Raillietiellida], leaving [https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=22604 Cephalobaenida] monotypic. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:30, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

::Yes, but according to the [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14535163/ paper] describing Rileyella/Yelirella it’s a cephalobaenid. Raillietielids are also referred to as cephalobaenids in [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02185523 this paper] alongside several others. IC1101-Capinatator (talk) 15:24, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

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:Keep. The source references quoted above are from 2003 and 1984 - not recent. The ToL accepts WoRMS as a standard reference and we should continue to follow it as the newer (and regularly updated) source. The redirect follows MOS and the taxobox in the genus article. Until that changes, we should not tinker with the redirect. Loopy30 (talk) 17:18, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Tamago }} → :Tamagoyaki  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Tamago|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Tamago closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tamago|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Tamago closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tamago|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Tamago closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Tamago (food) }} → :Tamagoyaki  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Tamago (food)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Tamago (food) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tamago (food)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Tamago (food) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tamago (food)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Tamago (food) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

"Tamago" means "egg" in Japanese, whereas "yaki" means "grilled". The current target effectively redirects "egg" to "grilled egg", and is hence too specific compared to other Japanese egg dishes, particularly Onsen tamago. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

:Retarget to Egg. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 03:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

• {{strikethrough|Delete WP:RLOTE: {{tq|Common words or concepts}}}}
  Disambiguate Found second topic Tamago (Mr. Stain on Junk Alley), dab has been drafted. Paradoctor (talk) 04:25, 10 February 2025 (UTC); edited 13:24, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Masami Akita discography where the 2004 album "Tamago" is listed. It cannot be redirected to Egg, since that is not a Japanese topic and there is no AFFINITY. It cannot target the current target, since it's the wrong name. The current target and other uses of Japanese food are PTM and not useful as not referred to as such on its own. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
• :In theory, :Category:Japanese egg dishes can be a plausible target. feminist🩸 (talk) 16:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
• ::Apart from the WP:XNR issue, "egg" shouldn't redirect to "egg dish" for the same reason it should not redirect to "grilled egg".
• ::More importantly, you missed me changing my !vote to "disambiguate". Redirecting to wherever is no longer appropriate. Paradoctor (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Tamago (food) also exists and points to the same target. It should be bundled into this nomination -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
• Disambiguate for all the various WP:DABMENTIONs, given the absence of any good mainspace target for Japanese egg dishes (which would otherwise be WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT). 59.149.117.119 (talk) 01:38, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

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• Support dab for Tamago. Tamago (food) can retarget there as well. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:57, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
• Disambiguate. Enix150 (talk) 00:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
• Support DAB - While egg has no affinity for Japanese per WP:RFOR, there are plenty of English uses of Tamago as can be seen in the draft. Adding Tamagoyaki and Onsen Tamago to the dab might be acceptable as well. Fieari (talk) 00:13, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ashley Guillard }} → :2022 University of Idaho killings  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Ashley Guillard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ashley Guillard closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ashley Guillard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ashley Guillard closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ashley Guillard|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Ashley Guillard closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Ashley Guillard falsely accused Rebecca Scofield of being involved in the crime which is the target of this redirect, and Scofield won a defamation suit over that accusation. The mention of Guillard had been removed from the target article as WP:UNDUE weight. Rebecca Scofield was deleted today at its RfD, this should be too. Jay 💬 09:44, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

• Keep - Keep per WP:CHEAP. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
• :How is this cheap, or which of the 5 points of that essay would you like to highlight? Jay 💬 15:15, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
• ::Point 1. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:15, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. No mention = not cheap. Steel1943 (talk) 15:48, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. Confusing without a substantive mention. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:27, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:45, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
• Strong Delete {{small|(unless a discussion of the case is ever re-added to wikipedia)}} - Anyone searching this name is looking for information on the false accusation, and they won't find it because it was removed from the article, presumably for BLP compliance. Unhelpful, as the existence of this redirect without an explanation in the article could be actively misleading! It might lead a searcher to assume that the accusation was true, for example! {{small|(Note, regulars to RfD will know I often support redirects without a mention because they CAN be helpful... this one can't)}} Fieari (talk) 00:18, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. At best this is unhelpful; at worst there are BLP concerns. Contra Jax, WP:CHEAP#1 is irrelevant: while it is true that deleting redirects does not save disk space, that does not mean that we should retain redirects which are unhelpful or harmful. We routinely delete redirects for all sorts of reasons despite the existence of CHEAP. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 15:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Concise Grove Dictionary of Music }} → :The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Concise Grove Dictionary of Music|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Concise Grove Dictionary of Music closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Concise Grove Dictionary of Music|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Concise Grove Dictionary of Music closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Concise Grove Dictionary of Music|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Concise Grove Dictionary of Music closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

This particular version of the work is not mentioned at the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

:Well, why not add it there then, {{u|1234qwer1234qwer4}}, and then it will be? The correct title is actually [https://search.worldcat.org/title/1450970953 The Grove Concise Dictionary of Music], but this is close enough to be a viable redirect. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:12, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete, no such work called the "consise grove dictionary of music". Whenever someone feels like adding this material to the article, they can create a redirect for "The Grove Consise Dictionary of Music" as soon as there is content to substantiate reader's search term. At this time there is not, so no need to mislead readers with a promise of content we cannot deliver at this time. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 10:55, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

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• Delete consistent with Grove Concise Dictionary of Music. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:29, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = ZeuS }} → :Zeus  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:ZeuS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#ZeuS closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:ZeuS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#ZeuS closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:ZeuS|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#ZeuS closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

This particular capitalisation would probably refer to Gameover ZeuS. The page was originally created as a camel-case title in pre-MediaWiki times, so I'm not sure how easily this is retargeted, but in case it is not, a hatnote would unfortunately appear quite odd (though the malware should probably be added to Zeus (disambiguation) either way). 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:23, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete. Unlikely typo for a god, an unlikely redirect for malware. Викидим (talk) 03:30, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

:: Changing vote to Keep. With the "delete" option unavailable, the least damage is done by keeping redirect to a well-known properly capitalized name, thus avoiding a surprise. Most search engines ignore the case anyhow, so this redirect will not help externally to find the malware article. --Викидим (talk) 03:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

• {{t|R from CamelCase}} redirects are kept for continuity/compatibility purposes so the first argument does not apply. 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:37, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
• {{ec}} Retarget to Gameover ZeuS, as I can't imagine someone capitalising the final letter when looking for the god, and I'm not seeing anything at Zeus (disambiguation) which this might refer to instead. Adding Gameover ZeuS to Zeus (disambiguation) also seems sensible to me. – Michael Aurel (talk) 03:33, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
• Disambiguate between Zeus and Gameover ZeuS. On one hand, Gameover is more accurate to the redirect but on the other hand the history of this article was always about the Greek god. User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 09:54, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Gameover ZeuS. Agreed with Michael Aurel that anyone typing it this way is probably thinking of the malware. A hatnote directing to Zeus and Zeus (disambiguation) could be added there, and the article added to the disambiguation page as well. That should cover all the likely possibilities. P Aculeius (talk) 14:49, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Zeus (disambiguation) -- this will take care of {{tl|R from camelcase}} of a redirect from 2001; and other uses; just list it on the dab page -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:37, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
• :Retarget per above. / RemoveRedSky ^[talk] 14:57, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget to Gameover ZeuS per Michael Aurel and WP:DIFFCAPS. I may have missed something, but in a quick review of Zeus (disambiguation) I didn't see anything else which would commonly be written with the last letter capitalised. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 02:55, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
• :Retarget per above Aprzn (talk) 22:02, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

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::* Comment. Gameover ZeuS IS mentioned, just in "See also." Should probably be moved to Computing, though... Worgisbor (Talking's fun!) 22:48, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

• RetargeT per above. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:7DB0:9F5B:5CAC:8D05 (talk) 22:10, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Long long ago, an editor had fun creating a page with the last letter of random words capitalized. When he realized others were joining in and having fun too, he converted it into a redirect. It was tagged as CamelCase some years later.

:However, this is not CamelCase, but a kind of a mix of alternating caps and random caps and StUdLyCaPs (these names are redirects to alternating caps by the way). Our article on Letter case doesn't have a name for it either. Redditors have [https://www.reddit.com/r/grammar/comments/1cxkfm5/what_is_it_called_when_you_only_capitalize_the/?rdt=41957 tried naming it] "Terminal capitalization" and "Question case". I have untagged CamelCase, and tagged the redirect as {{tl|R from miscapitalisation}}. We may keep it that way as an antique, or to make the redirect relevant in the present day, retarget to Gameover ZeuS, and untag. I don't see usefulness in retargeting to the disambig page, but having a hatnote at Gameover ZeuS to the disambig page may be done. On Worgisbor's concern, "See also" is the right place, it should not be a dab entry. Jay 💬 21:00, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

::For the purposes of {{tl|R from camelcase}} (WP:CAMEL) this *is* camelcase, as defined by UseModWiki software that was used in 2001 by Wikipedia. Thus this redirect should only point to Zeus or Zeus (disambiguation); There are a lot of old weird redirects with frist&last letter capitalized for UseModWiki reasons -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 05:36, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

:::WP:CAMEL has this 2001 post from Clifford Adams: {{tqq|.. when I recently wanted to link to "democracy",... I made the link "DemocracY" (to follow the new convention of last-letter-capitalized).}} What is this convention that he talks about? I did not find anything on it in UseModWiki. Jay 💬 07:35, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = DK King of Swing DS }} → :Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:DK King of Swing DS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#DK King of Swing DS closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:DK King of Swing DS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#DK King of Swing DS closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:DK King of Swing DS|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#DK King of Swing DS closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Recreation of former RFD material - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_March_21#DK_King_of_Swing_DS User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 07:25, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

• Identical issue to previous RFD, so instead tagged with {{tlx|db-g4}}. Tule-hog (talk) 07:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Although this redirect was deleted in 2019, it was kept in January 2020. As such, I think bringing this redirect back to RFD makes sense if there is an issue. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 07:48, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

::Apologies, for some reason did not see the older nomination that is clearly in the history. Tule-hog (talk) 07:55, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:Delete - this redirect implies that King of Swing received a DS port more than it implies that it got a DS sequel. I also can't imagine it getting much digital footfall, honestly. Jack talk 17:21, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Urban Development Action Grants }} → :United States Department of Housing and Urban Development  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Urban Development Action Grants|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Urban Development Action Grants closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Urban Development Action Grants|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Urban Development Action Grants closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Urban Development Action Grants|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Urban Development Action Grants closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Topic is not mentioned at the target. Tule-hog (talk) 06:10, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Deputization }} → :Deputy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Deputization|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Deputization closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Deputization|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Deputization closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Deputization|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Deputization closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Topic not mentioned at target (a disambiguation page), nor at Deputy sheriff (a likely retarget). Tule-hog (talk) 05:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

• Keep Per :wikt:en:deputization seems the current target is good, as several items on the dab page can be referred to. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 08:05, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Keep. The several mentions of this in enwiki indicate a variety of different meanings. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:Comment Do not confuse this as "de-Putin-ization". 67.209.129.142 (talk) 01:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Industrial socialism }} → :Socialism  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Industrial socialism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Industrial socialism closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Industrial socialism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Industrial socialism closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Industrial socialism|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Industrial socialism closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Topic is not discussed at the target. Tule-hog (talk) 05:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Kurwa bobr }} → :Eurasian beaver  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Kurwa bobr|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Kurwa bobr closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Kurwa bobr|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Kurwa bobr closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Kurwa bobr|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Kurwa bobr closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Seems like a pretty WP:BFDI-ish redirect like "Despacito 2" and other barely notable memes that i've seen being made into redirects on Wikipedia. 67.209.129.191 (talk) 04:47, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:Note WP:BFDI is an essay on a specific article that keeps on being continually recreated over and over again, and not (as nom used it) a general catch all essay for any given topic or redirect. User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 07:47, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

::I know, but by the way, "WP:BFDI" has evolved into Wikipedian slang for something that's popular yet not notable (which would be irrelevant otherwise). For proof on this, here's a quote from WP:BFDI itself (most related parts highlighted in bold):

::{{quote|In fact, several users have used the term "WP:BFDI" to broadly refer to any subject in general whose popularity, or even existence, does not translate to notability.}}

::67.209.130.82 (talk) 01:18, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

:::Ah right, forgot about that :P User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 08:25, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

• Delete. Wikipedia doesn't need a redirect for every passing meme if they're not discussed at the target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Lord Maximus Farquaad }} → :List of Shrek (franchise) characters#Introduced in Shrek  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Lord Maximus Farquaad|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Lord Maximus Farquaad closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Lord Maximus Farquaad|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Lord Maximus Farquaad closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Lord Maximus Farquaad|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Lord Maximus Farquaad closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Maximus Farquaad }} → :List of Shrek (franchise) characters#Introduced in Shrek  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Maximus Farquaad|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Maximus Farquaad closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Maximus Farquaad|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Maximus Farquaad closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Maximus Farquaad|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Maximus Farquaad closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ]

This was a pretty useful direct when Lord Farquaad used to have a page. Now that he was redirected per AfD, it a useless redirect as "Maximus is not mentioned anywhere. Toby2023 (talk) 03:49, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

• :Meh. Lean keep, but only if the middle name is added. Worgisbor (Talking's fun!) 20:08, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
• There is mention at List of monarchs of fictional countries#D but it's unsourced and I have added a {{tl|citation needed}}. Jay 💬 15:01, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
• Keep. Plausible search term. it's lio! | talk | work 09:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Landan }} → :London  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Landan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Landan closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Landan|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Landan closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Landan|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Landan closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Unlikely misspelling; more likely people are looking for the first name. Cremastra (u — c) 00:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

• Retarget to Landan Rooney as {{tl|R from first name}}; there doesn't seem to be anyone else notable with this name. Duckmather (talk) 18:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Keep it's the way it's sometimes pronounced by some traditional London accents see e.g. [https://archive.thetab.com/2016/02/10/people-who-say-landan-need-to-stop-73507]. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Retarget or probably better disambiguate as although there is [https://archive.thetab.com/2016/02/10/people-who-say-landan-need-to-stop-73507 some usage] I'd say over a person with the name (even if a PTM) should be a priority. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. Retargeting to the one article about a person with the given name isn't helpful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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• Keep It's a nickname reflecting local pronunciation, either by local self-deprecation or outside mirth, just like Nawlins or Trawna. I don't see the point in redirecting this to a random Canadian curler as if he's like Adele or Madonna being known by one name. Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:01, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

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• Delete Just because it is pronounced like that in certain accents, does not mean that it is spelled differently and this seems like a really implausible misspelling of "London". GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 23:16, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
• :Have you read [https://archive.thetab.com/2016/02/10/people-who-say-landan-need-to-stop-73507 Joseph2302's link]? it's lio! | talk | work 08:54, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete or retarget to Landan Rooney - I'm not convinced this is a plausible misspelling. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:26, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

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:Split between delete or keep but certainly DON'T retarget to Landan Rooney because of WP:PTM. Redirs like Messi are the exception not the rule User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 08:27, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

::I'm new here, so don't kill me, but doesn't WP:PTM apply to disambiguation pages and not redirects? Worgisbor (Talking's fun!) 20:15, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

:::PTM does not apply. WP:RDELETE #2 and/or #8 should be the ones being mentioned instead of PTM at RfD. There are boatloads of PTM redirects already that aren't going to be deleted because of multiple WP:RKEEP reasons, particularly #5, and that WP:RCHEAP. However you can say PTM would prevent a disambiguation page from being created out of the redirect. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 00:05, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

• Keep per [https://archive.thetab.com/2016/02/10/people-who-say-landan-need-to-stop-73507 Joseph2302's link] and wikt:Landan - it's not just a misspelling, it's a term in usage. Per Someone-123-321, oppose retarget. it's lio! | talk | work 09:00, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Les Ateliers Métallurgiques de Nivelles }} → :fr:Ateliers métallurgiques  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Les Ateliers Métallurgiques de Nivelles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Les Ateliers Métallurgiques de Nivelles closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Les Ateliers Métallurgiques de Nivelles|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Les Ateliers Métallurgiques de Nivelles closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Les Ateliers Métallurgiques de Nivelles|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Les Ateliers Métallurgiques de Nivelles closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Delete, unless there is an appropriate local target. Sending readers to non-English content is not helpful, and no other redirects to foreign language targets exist. Additionally, the plain {{tl|soft redirect}} template {{plain link|1=https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3ASoft+redirect&namespace=0|2=is not used in the mainspace}} (WP:SOFTSP). See here for precedents. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 02:21, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

• Comment - Mentioned in a few local articles, but La Brugeoise et Nivelles seems to be the best potential target if this is to remain extant. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 02:25, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. This is effectively a cross-namespace redirect, and it's confusing because leads unexpectedly to a page in another Wikipedia. It's one use at La Brugeoise et Nivelles should be replaced with a correct inter-language link. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:01, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

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