User talk:Wtmitchell/Archive 6 (2012)

If you are going to remove my add on to the college football overtime rules then please remove the 2 sentences above my post the describe the safety the results in a loss of 75 yards because whoever wrote that is a fucking idiot.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.234.115 (talk • contribs) 13:54, January 3, 2012‎

:I don't know anything about sports, but I'll take a look at it. Please read WP:CIVIL. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:58, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

:{{od}} While I was trying to figure this out, other editors apparently removed the assertions which so upset you. I'm not going to take any further action on this. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 06:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, did you mean to delete Matthew 6 sans any discussion? The Afd was on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ostensible not Matthew 6. Ostensible still exists. Was that a typo? History2007 (talk) 05:54, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

:My mistake. Thanks for rubbing my nose in it. It should be fixed now.

:I must have navigated to Ostensible, been redirected to Matthew 6 without noticing that, and deleted the page. Dumb. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 06:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

::No problem. I did not mean to sound harsh on it, sorry. History2007 (talk) 08:41, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

:::Didn't mean to imply that. I'm genuinely grateful. Cheers. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:27, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Wtmitchell,

Greetings!

Hi Editors,

There is a bit of a problem in one of the entries about the history of the island of Boracay.

The old folks Sofia and Lamberto did develop the island through [http://aroundgrandmasrockingchair.com/?page_id=84 cultivation] but as far as the members of the family are concerned including those settlers close to them, they did not "clear" the island. The source is still the same primary source which is the article itself published in [http://www.britannica.com/bps/media-view/0d19b4f3-3fc8-4f53-8a28-34d96ef90746/1/0/1 The Sunday Times Magazine] [http://www.britannica.com/bps/media-view/7eceef38-e0d5-4c02-8b45-a1b9d0ae4cdc/1/0/1 in 1987].

The "clearing" happened decades after, particularly in the late 1980s after electricity reached the island and some of the heirs of the islanders and the settlers began selling their lots to outsiders.

Since I was the one who contributed some of the family journals and accounts to Wikipedia I was told to rectify this error.

Thank you.

Aicykiss (talk) 08:42, 31 January 2012 (UTC) Aicykiss

:From the info above, I'm not sure what to do, I'm in Romblon at the moment and traveling back to Boracay tomorrow. When my travel situation stabilizes, I'll take a look at this. Cheers. 203.84.185.242 (talk) 11:16, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

:{{od}}I've done some rewriting in the History section and added some cites. I'm not really happy with it as it stands now, but don't have time to spend on it right now. Other editors will probably improve on these changes. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:04, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hugo Chavez isn't a dictator. When we look at the sources, we can clearly see their propaganda meanings. I will not change status of Hugo Chavez,you're talking about here probably relates to the initial paragraph of WP:V but i can find sources that claims dictatorship of [[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. Those are all propagandas. Dictatorship doesn't mean "enemies of The United States." -- Avatar9n (talk) 20:57, 12-02-2012 (UTC)

:Hmmm... I recall looking at something related to this during a huggle session, but I don't recall the details and don't see mention of it in my contributions or in the edit history of the Chavez article. I'm guessing that my side of whatever sparked this probably relates to WP:VNT and WP:DUE. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:47, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

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Do you have any suggestions for how to deal with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARepublicanJacobite%2FAlternate&action=historysubmit&diff=477035816&oldid=471707876 this user]? He is clearly someone with whom I have tangled before, judging by his comments, though I have no particular recollection of him. My guess is that he will return, given his attitude. Any thoughts? ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 04:28, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

:Wish I could help, but nothing useful comes to mind. Sorry. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:15, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Bill. According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User%3A198.237.219.34&type=block this log] you got into bit of a race condition with another admin and drastically reduced the block length for an IP. Could it be an accident? Favonian (talk) 21:57, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for the heads-up. I changed the block time back to one year. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:02, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

::Great! This is an election year, so I guess we don't want to seen as "soft on vandalism" {{=)|wink}}. Favonian (talk) 22:29, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Remove the section "Analysis & Evaluations" on the Lightning Rod page, as you know it is completely biased and completely incoherent. UL isn't even "effing" unbiased as it collected for profit money to "certify" LPS that it also sets the standards for.

Do not threaten me either, but claiming I am "vandalizing" the the page or being "unconstructive" simply because I am calling out the obvious bias of this section of the article and attempting to describe in simple facts the differences between the two approaches to providing LPS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.96.5.90 (talk • contribs) 05:59, February 22, 2012‎

:This apparently relates to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lightning_rod&diff=next&oldid=478142278 this] reversion which I made during a WP:Huggle session, I think. I had reverted because of section blanking too hastily -- before seeing that an edit summary with an explanation had been provided. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lightning_rod&diff=next&oldid=478142385 here], I attempted to undo that huggle edit from within huggle a few seconds later. I presumed that huggle had done the undo, and continued on looking at other articles. Looking at the diffs now, I see that huggle said that my edit had been undone without actually undoing it. The problem seems to have been fixed by other editors, so I'm not taking any further action on it.

:I looked at User talk:70.96.5.90, intending to remove relevant warnings and saw two warnings there from me and one later warning from another editor. I looked at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_rod?diff=478143826 the diff] for that later warned-about edit, and I agree that the warned-about edit was improper. I've left the talk page unedited. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:22, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

my bad

:Apparently in response to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_Kiedis&action=historysubmit&diff=478184178&oldid=478184121 this revert]. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:42, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Just to clarify, my comment on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mors3953 was aimed at Mors3953, not you. :) WilliamH (talk) 15:10, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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You may be interested in my recent posts at Talk:Mount Kitanglad. They are more or less in response to a concern you had about a year ago with the article. Also, there are some related posts at Talk:Mount Dulang-dulang. I haven't nailed down the problem yet. If you have any more information that would clear this up, that would be great. Thank you.--Racerx11 (talk) 20:27, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for that. I have responded on the article talk page. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:34, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

::I appreciate the response and I will keep your suggestions in mind. Please keep in mind for my sake that I have spent several hours delving extremely deep into this issue. I must have read through over a dozen external articles alone in the process. It is entirely possible that I have not quite reeled myself back up and out of that mindset enough to engage in a coherant conversation on the topic. If my reply at the talk page seems bazaar or disjointed or anything like that, then this is probably the reason and I apologize for that. Particularly since I had asked you to talk to me about it.--Racerx11 (talk) 03:35, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

:::I know the feeling. More comment on the article talk page. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Please take a moment to review my proposed changes at Talk:Mount Kitanglad and feel free to comment or suggest improvements. Thank you.--Racerx11 (talk) 02:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for your suggested version, I will probably use a variation or our two later tonight when I go live with the edits, then we can resume normal editing practices. I have one question: Would you mind if I refactor your latest comment at Talk:Mount Kitanglad by placing it into the section 'Proposed changes to this article', just for ease of editing and readability in any future discussions?--Racerx11 (talk) 21:33, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

::Just to inform you that I have made the live edits at the two articles Mount Kitanglad (actually used your draft which was an improvement on mine) and also at Mount Dulang-dulang (may need a once over or a re-wording in the note as I wrote it out rather quickly). Feel free to make any further edits. You have been extremely helpful in the discussions over the past several days, far more so than I would have expected from any editor on a matter such as this. Your input, invaluable!--Racerx11 (talk) 03:57, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Bill, I've started a new discussion about updating our introductory sentence in light of a recent dictionary source. It can be found here. Your input would be much appreciated.--Cúchullain ^t/c 21:36, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks. I've commented on the article's talk page. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:18, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

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thanks for fixing that. the paragraph about prostitution and the booking photo have been delted/undeleted at least 3 or 4 times in the recent past. Decora (talk) 13:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chernobyl_disaster&diff=420948437&oldid=420933973] What failed verification? I searched the PDF (nb:old link is now working, while new link is 401) and although the PDF does not have the same table, I was able to confirm some of the measurements with text search (try: "room 712", "Gidroelektromontazh"). --hydrox (talk) 23:17, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

:I don't recall the specifics of the tag placement, but I've just rechecked. The http://dodreports.com/pdf/ada335076.pdf web page which I tagged {{tl|fv}} is now a {{tl|Registration required}} page for me. The URL cited has been changed to http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA335076&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf since I placed the tag. That page loads very slowly for me and I haven't tried to verify the info in the table there. Based on your info that some of the info in the table can be verified there, I've removed the tag.

:FYI, neither http://dodreports.com/pdf/ada335076.pdf nor http://dodreports.com/ ever complete loading for me. I get a popup registration form on both those URLs, but neither web page ever completes loading. I'm located in the Philippines and have noticed that it is not uncommon for me to be unable to access some US Govt web pages. I'm guessing that these US Govt web pages have access from outside the US blocked, either generally or selectively. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 04:43, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

::I also get 401 authorization required (a standard HTTP error message) on http://dodreports.com/ . This opens a popup window asking user to provide credentials in most browsers. I am accessing from Finland. I think it might be just a server misconfiguration error. Mind you I changed the URL of the document to http://handle.dtic.mil/100.2/ADA335076 . --hydrox (talk) 16:32, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for your contributions in Jessica Sanchez article as you did with these edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessica_Sanchez&diff=492637828&oldid=492636110] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessica_Sanchez&diff=492638688&oldid=492637828]. I have since replaced the duplicate web reference you provided with an existing named reference link as seen on this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jessica_Sanchez&diff=492651338&oldid=492649262 edit]. I look forward to working with you and learning from you as well. - SyncSeth (talk) 06:35, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks. I was just taking a quick look at that article to get some information, and fixed a couple of things which happened to catch my eye. I should have caught the duplicate ref situation myself, but missed it on these drive-by edits. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:40, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, did you mean to do this?[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APresidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=495531989&oldid=495521196] The comment you removed was restored, I don't see any indication of anything wrong with that comment either. Just an FYI. Best, - Wikidemon (talk) 23:35, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

:It wasn't intentional. I remember looking at that talk page from my watchlist -- this was probably a misclick. Thanks for the cleanup. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 01:19, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello, you stated already in November 2010 the problem with external links. Just look at the section "Presidency" which contains many external links. It gives a miserable impression to the outside-Filipino readership (which Wikipedia certainly has). Sincerely yours, 49.145.85.9 (talk) 08:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

:Just give you an impression:

"On March 14, 2011, Aquino signed Executive Order No. 29, authorizing the Civil Aeronautics Board and the Philippine Air Panels to "pursue more aggressively" the International Civil Aviation Liberalization Policy.

On March 14, 2011, Aquino also signed Executive Order No. 30, transferring the Land Registration Authority (LRA) from the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) to the Department of Justice (DOJ).

On July 25, 2011, at the Batasang Pambansa, in Quezon City, Aquino delivered his second State of the Nation Address (SONA).

On August 4, 2011, Aquino left the country unannounced to hold unprecedented talks with Murad Ebrahim, chair of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), in Tokyo, Japan.[115]"

:That is not really nice to read. And it is unique in Wikipedia. I wouldn't be proud of that distinction. 49.145.85.9 (talk) 08:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

::Yes, see the lead sentence of WP:EL: "Wikipedia articles may include links to web pages outside Wikipedia (external links), but they should not normally be used in the body of an article. ...". Those aren't links added by me, of course; it takes quite a while for new editors to discover, read, and start following Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines; some never do. Perhaps I'll take a look at doing some cleanup for the Benigno Aquino III article, though. For a real mess, look at Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines#Lots of articles with outdated info. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:22, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

:::"but they should not normally be used in the body of an article". It should not be normally used in the body of the article at it is clearly stated in the policy. That is the crux. That is what some users here don't (want to) understand. Perhaps those external links can be changed to reference notes. But anyway, at least we agree on one point that that article should be really cleaned up especially when it comes to the Philippine president. 49.145.85.9 (talk) 03:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

::::WP:SOFIXIT. I understand and agree with the guideline and I didn't put the inline links there. I would fix it (and still might if I have the time and the innclination to spend it on that), but I have other things to do. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:02, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

you edit your opion since you are a yank. I put mine from observation. They murder out of gungho and glory for a medal and then lied to get out of their frack up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.66.16.140 (talk • contribs) 16:29, June 4, 2012‎

Apparently regarding my reverts of POV BLP violations by 184.66.16.140 (talk) at the Tarnak Farm incident article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:30, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I place out of observation, you try and change out "USA' never fucks up — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.66.16.140 (talk • contribs) 16:33, June 4, 2012‎

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I place out of observation, you try and change out "USA' never fucks up

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Thank you for your attention to the Philippines–United States relations article. Please see wp:Tea. 108.195.138.38 (talk) 06:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

:AFAICT, this was in reaction to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines%E2%80%93United_States_relations&diff=496716393&oldid=496714451 this edit]. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 06:14, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

::If you are willing to take responsibility for verifying the sources, it's a good edit. The anon frequently misquotes sources. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:36, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

:::The cited source looks good to me, as does the alternative source mentioned in the hidden comment. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

The [http://www.pia.gov.ph/news/index.php?article=2271335414573 PIA source] was published on 26 April. Our [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scarborough_Shoal&oldid=489151878 25 April edition]. It's a direct copy paste. CMD (talk) 11:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

:WP:RS says, "Questionable sources are those with a poor reputation for checking the facts, or with no editorial oversight." Are you asserting that the Philippine Information Agency (an official organ of the RP government) has a poor reputation for checking the facts, or has no editorial oversight?

:The PIA article to which you object does appear to contain some info copied from Wikipedia. That information seems to have been inserted in the WP article, then without support, in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scarborough_Shoal&diff=prev&oldid=487784714 this] 17 April edit. It occurs to me that the PIA may have picked that information up from WP for their 26 April article and fact-checked it prior to publication. The information in which the PIA article is cited in support is, as I understand it, "To the east, the 5,000 - 6,000 meter deep Manila Trench separates the shoal from Philippine Archipelago." I looked at the Manila Trench article, and see that it says, "The Manila Trench is an oceanic trench in the South China Sea, located west of the islands of Luzon and Mindoro in the Philippines. The trench reaches a depth of about 5,400 metres (17,700 ft)", citing [http://www.msi.umn.edu/~spring/PEPI/article.pdf this source] in support. That source cited there says, "The depth of Manila Trench is around 4.8–4.9 km and reaches the deepest point of 5.4 km." That cited source also contains maps which would support an assertion that that the Manila Trench is located between Scarborough Shoal and the Philippine Archipelago. Personally, I would consider the PIA source as reliable on this topic, but the source cited in the Manila Trench article also appears reliable and also appears to support the asserted information. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:58, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

::I have no idea what's up with the Philippine Information Agency, but this specific incident isn't just taking information, someone clearly went ctrl+c ctrl+v, taking from wikipedia for that page. It's remarkably blatant. The PIA article was used to source the entire geography section (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scarborough_Shoal&oldid=496896089 this edition]) prior to a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scarborough_Shoal&diff=497347217&oldid=496896089 new source] splitting it. It was due to the insertion of this new source that I double checked the PIA source. Obviously it'd be great for other sources to be used, but there's no way we could consider using a source that not only directly copied two entire sections from an article (Geography + Activities in the surrounding area), but also did that while removing two citation needed tags. CMD (talk) 22:27, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

:::PIA has a feedback/complaint link on their home page. I sent them a personal complaint about apparent blatant plagiarism. I'll post an update here about feedback received. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hi,

Sorry, I reverted all of you edits to this article as part of reverting an apparent vandal who edited before you. Can't revert just his edits. Would you mind restoring yours? — kwami (talk) 06:52, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

:Done. I've unreverted some other stuff as well. Please discuss on the article talk page if needful. Cheers. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 11:27, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the non-Dickens uses were completely and utterly irrelevant to the topic of Coverture. In any case, Dickens seems to have greatly popularized the expression... AnonMoos (talk) 01:55, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

:I wouldn't argue with that. I see that your edit changed the prior claim of "originates" to "was popularized by", so that's OK. Your edit, however, removed the supporting cite I had supplied. Per WP:V, all quotations require citation of a supporting source. I've added the supporting cite back in, mentioning only the pages which refer to Dickens. Cheers. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi there! In my most recent [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines&curid=23440&diff=498140675&oldid=498140079 edit] in the Philippines article, I referred to a new section that I made in Zamboanga Peninsula, specifically on the issue of its regional center. I looked around for sources and references in order to clarify the issue.

While you cited that the RDC chose Zamboanga City as the new RC in March 2011, this is merely an endorsement and is not immediately executory and is pending unless declared by the President through an Executive Order. My most recent [http://www.zamboangatoday.ph/index.php/news/13-top-stories/5811-neda-zamboanga-city-will-grow-sans-regional-center.html source] (August 15, 2011) tells that the National Economic and Development Authority does not consider Zamboanga City as the RC but rather the commercial and industrial center.

In my edit summary [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zamboanga_Peninsula&diff=498139758&oldid=498127225 here], I stated that Legally, Pagadian is still RC as per EO 429 (upheld in MC75 s. 2004). MC11 s. 2010 only stopped the transfer of reg. offices. RDC endorsement still pending. NEDA says ZamboCity not the RC to which I referred to in this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippines&diff=prev&oldid=498140079 edit summary] to take a look at the new section I made, citing the space constraints in the ES field should I need to elaborate further.

In this case, Pagadian City still retains its status as RC as of today. Xeltran (talk) 08:03, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks for the info, for the cited sources, and for the clarifying addition to the article (especially the working links to the sources; just the mention of EO429 would have confused me, as I would have confused that with [http://elibrary.judiciary.gov.ph/index10.php?doctype=Executive%20Orders&docid=58b1d87211fd96e1faad8cb065758f95455a4894ad115 EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 429, May 23, 2005]). Cheers, Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:43, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

:: No problem! Happy editing! :) Xeltran (talk) 07:38, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Do you realize you blanked the page? Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 03:40, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

:No, and thanks for fixing it. I was in a WP:Huggle session and didn't see that happen there. It might have been some sort of an urecognized edit conflict, or perhaps just a simple screwup on my part. Thanks again for the fix. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Could I ask you to please review my recent anti-vandalism reverts and give me an objective opinion on how you feel I am doing and if there is any ways to improve my performance?

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:As far as I can see, this grew out of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thylacine&diff=prev&oldid=498459213 this revert]. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 06:59, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

In your edit, you added "", which doesn't link to existing named refs in the article ... do you have the full ref available? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:53, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

:I fixed that. Sorry for the problem; I ought to have checked. The info & cites came from the Bo Guagua article. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 22:59, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

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• Mitch, have you read the link (http://66.29.194.78/nation/06/20/12/deal-12-fighter-jets-signed-soon-dnd) I provided? FYI, it was release the day after the cited source was given, in it you will find that the DND had clearly "said the contract for the 12 fighter jets that government plans to purchase could be signed this year". So technically, whoever adds the entry into PAF had violated WP:SYN because no aircraft type or model was mentioned and that no contract was signed, yet. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 00:19, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

:I see that you've re-removed the material. Based on the info you've pointed out above (which I did miss noticing when I glanced at the source while running through my watchlist), I won't contest that. Note, though, that WP:SYN relates specifically to combining material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:54, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

:*Apologies if I had implied that you had made that mistake but on the contrary, a couple of IP & registered editors had committed that cardinal sin (on KAI T-50) before moving on to PAF, where you reverted me. Their violation of WP:SYN there was very apparent. Hope this clear things up. Best and cheers. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 01:57, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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